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  • Writer's pictureKrista Bontrager

Liberty and Justice for All?

Guest: Dr. Carol Swain; 4th of July; Confederate Flag

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Segment #1: Interview with Dr. Carol Swain

We love America. But it took a while for our country to realize the promise of freedom for all. How do we find balance between the reality of slavery and our celebration of freedom on the 4th of July?

Monique was introduced to Dr. Carol Swain after reading a magazine article she wrote earlier this year that addressed the dangers of Critical Race Theory. Finding camaraderie in Dr. Swain’s work, Monique discovered—YES—there are conservative, black intellectuals who believe in a different narrative than what CRT espouses.

Dr. Swain is featured in the new film, “Uncle Tom,” which is an oral history of the American Black Conservative.

Dr. Swain offered several comments on her perspective on the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement. Dr. Swain and Monique agreed: Critical Race Theory and cultural Marxism are dividing us and will never be able to help us achieve unity or a post-racial society.

We also discussed the 1619 Project and how it differs from the 1776 Unites Campaign. The 1619 Project is an initiative developed by The New York Times Magazine, which aims to reframe the history of the United States (with a CRT-slant), focusing on racism, slavery, and contributions of black Americans.

In contrast, Dr. Swain advocates for the 1776 Unites Campaign, which is an initiative developed by Bob Woodson.

1776” is an assembly of independent voices who uphold our country’s authentic founding virtues and values and challenge those who assert America is forever defined by its past failures, such as slavery. We seek to offer alternative perspectives that celebrate the progress America has made on delivering its promise of equality and opportunity and highlight the resilience of its people. Our focus is on solving problems.

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Segment #2: 2020 UP Conference

Don’t forget to register for the 1st Annual UP Conference!


Segment #3: Confederate Flag

The Mississippi state legislature voted this week to no longer use their flag. Voters will vote on a potential new design in November. We offered some thoughts about it.


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